# Drop out provision

**URL:** <https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/drop-out-provision/3786>\
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**Created:** [June 17, 2022, 2:00pm UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/drop-out-provision/3786 "2022-06-17T14:00:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![alecs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2bfe46/32.png) [@alecs](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/alecs)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 2:00pm UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/drop-out-provision/3786/1 "2022-06-17T14:00:46Z")

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Hi

My name is Alex. I am currently on CPPD. I was a late applicant to CPPD and I have a question about drop out provisions.

I moved to Canada in 1998 (at age 23), and at age 29, after graduating from university, I started work. Between 2004 and 2009 I contributed to CPP for 6 years, 4 of which were maximum yearly contributions.

In 2009 I became disabled, and went on LTD until present times. However, despite being on LTD, I did not apply to CPPD until 2016, when the LTD insurer directed me to do so.

In 2016, I was accepted in the CPPD program, **with an “effective date” of 2016**. However, depite having become disabled in 2009, on my CPP Statetement of Contributions, the years between 2010 to 2016 are labelled as “B” (“below basic exemption” )

Given that during the period of time between 2009-2016 I was on LTD, and suffered from the same disability that caused me to be accepted into CPPD, **is there a way to have the 2010-2016 period drop out from the CPP calculations?** (In other words, I have been continously disabled starting 2009, all the way through present times, despite being on to CPPD only starting 2016.)

Am I correct in assuming that applying a drop out provision to the 2010-2016 period will effectively raise my eventual CPP pension?

Alex

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**Author:** ![Caro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Caro](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/Caro)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 6:37pm UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/drop-out-provision/3786/2 "2022-06-17T18:37:35Z")

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This is an incredibly technical question, you may have better luck asking dogger here: [Any questions about CPP? - Financial Wisdom Forum](https://www.financialwisdomforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115904)

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**Author:** ![jammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df705f/32.png) [@jammer](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/jammer)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 1:05am UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/drop-out-provision/3786/3 "2022-06-19T01:05:20Z")

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I would phone Service Canada.  
Maybe the effective date is based on applying late?

> [@alecs](#):
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> Am I correct in assuming that applying a drop out provision to the 2010-2016 period will effectively raise my eventual CPP pension?

I think so.  
I think instead of getting drop outs the new formula is to assume 50% of the maximum contribution.  
I heard that but I may have misinterpreted it.  
I don’t know if drop outs or 50% is better.  
I would ask as Caro suggested.  
Post what you find our. 🙂

Good luck.

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**Author:** ![alecs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2bfe46/32.png) [@alecs](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/alecs)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 3:25am UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/drop-out-provision/3786/4 "2022-06-19T03:25:38Z")

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Thank you.

I will do so.  
I did email a lawyer a quick question and his answer (for free,) was:

> short of appealing the legislation to the Supreme Court, I don’t see that you have any chance to get what you’re asking for.

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**Author:** ![jammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df705f/32.png) [@jammer](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/jammer)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 11:24pm UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/drop-out-provision/3786/5 "2022-06-19T23:24:26Z")

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Appealing to the supreme court doesn’t seem likely. ☹  
Good luck though.
