# CPP-D denied. DTC approved. Feeling frustrated **URL:** \ **Category:** CPP Disability\ **Created:** [June 23, 2018, 3:44am UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/cpp-d-denied-dtc-approved-feeling-frustrated/1375 "2018-06-23T03:44:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![2nd2none](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/47e85d/32.png) [@2nd2none](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/2nd2none)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 3:44am UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/cpp-d-denied-dtc-approved-feeling-frustrated/1375/1 "2018-06-23T03:44:23Z")
Hello, I’m 35 diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. I applied for both CPP Disability and the DTC on March 1st 2018. I received an approval letter for the DTC on March 20. I received a phone call from service canada two days ago stating that my claim was denied and I would get a letter in the mail explaining how the decision was made and how to appeal. I receive LTD benefits from my employers plan. The reasoning stated was: …does not have a disability that is severe and prolonged as defined under the CPP legislation. I was diagnosed with MS in March 2015. I had been off of work since November 2014 awaiting a neurologist appointment (in Feb 2015) as my family doctor and myself suspected Carpal Tunnel. It ended up being multiple sclerosis and my health and capabilities continued to decline. My LTD sent a letter saying I no longer qualify under the “own occupation” and meet the “Any occupation” clause as I’m unable to do any occupation with gainful employment. I’m aware of the high percentage of denials in regard to CPP-D. However I’m confused as to how I can be disabled enough for DTC but not the CPP-D. There is no cure for MS, it’s a debilitating disease that you don’t recover from like a headache. I’m at a loss right now. The wind has been completely taken out of my sail. Any ideas of what to do would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![jammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df705f/32.png) [@jammer](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/jammer)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 3:57am UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/cpp-d-denied-dtc-approved-feeling-frustrated/1375/2 "2018-06-23T03:57:13Z")
> [@2nd2none](#): > > I can be disabled enough for DTC but not the CPP-D. You do qualify for CPP-D but they want you to give up and not appeal. Don’t give up. Read the articles here: > **[Blog](https://www.resolutelegal.ca/blog/)** > > Trying to calculate a long term disability settlement amount can be difficult — especially if you aren’t a math guru, but you’re in luck! We built this long term disability settlement calculator to make your life easier! All you have to do is fill in... ---
**Author:** ![Elaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/439d5e/32.png) [@Elaine](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/Elaine)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 11:08pm UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/cpp-d-denied-dtc-approved-feeling-frustrated/1375/3 "2018-06-23T23:08:22Z")
Same here. I was approved for DTC and LTD beyond 2 year mark but denied twice on CPPD. They gave me the same explanation. ---
**Author:** ![2nd2none](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/47e85d/32.png) [@2nd2none](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/2nd2none)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 3:41am UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/cpp-d-denied-dtc-approved-feeling-frustrated/1375/4 "2018-06-24T03:41:49Z")
Have you gone through your reconsideration process? ---
**Author:** ![Elaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/439d5e/32.png) [@Elaine](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/Elaine)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 10:04am UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/cpp-d-denied-dtc-approved-feeling-frustrated/1375/5 "2018-06-24T10:04:44Z")
Yes and was denied. At a Tribunal stage now. ---
**Author:** ![jammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df705f/32.png) [@jammer](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/jammer)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 3:59am UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/cpp-d-denied-dtc-approved-feeling-frustrated/1375/6 "2018-06-25T03:59:14Z")
I guess my advice is to trust your lawyer. Best of luck. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Brannen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.resolutelegal.ca/david_brannen/32/2_2.png) [@David\_Brannen](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/David_Brannen)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 1:47pm UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/cpp-d-denied-dtc-approved-feeling-frustrated/1375/7 "2018-06-26T13:47:07Z")
> [@2nd2none](#): > > clause as I’m unable to do any occupation with gainful employment. > > I’m aware of the high percentage of denials in regard to CPP-D. However I’m confused as to how I can be disabled enough for DTC but not the CPP-D. Each agency makes an independent assessment based on the paperwork and documents in their own file. It is possible the documents you provided to CPPD are not sufficient. They may not have all the information that your LTD insurer has. CPPD may not have the medical certificate your doctor provided to DTC, etc. I expect there is just a gap in information and once you provide that to Service Canada during your appeals, your CPPD will be approved. * * * **David Brannen** Disability Lawyer with Resolute Legal The response posted above is based on the limited factual information made available and is not intended as a full and complete response to the question. The only reliable manner to obtain complete and adequate legal advice is to consult with a lawyer, fully explain your situation, and allow the lawyer enough time to research the applicable law and facts required to give an adequate opinion. The basic information provided above is intended as a public service only, a full one-on-one discussion with a lawyer should be done before taking any any action. The information posted on this forum is available to the viewing public and is not intended to create a lawyer client relationship with any person. If you want one-on-one advice, please [click here](https://www.resolutelegal.ca/free-consultation/) to request a free consultation **or call toll free 1-877-282-5188 to speak with a member with our disability claim support team.** ---
**Author:** ![allyoops](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@allyoops](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/allyoops)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/cpp-d-denied-dtc-approved-feeling-frustrated/1375/8 "2018-06-26T20:06:33Z")
Check this link for MS [https://mssociety.ca/library/document/7y12efUgEiZY5B9SuDTbcnCImhOA3XNl/original.pdf](https://mssociety.ca/library/document/7y12efUgEiZY5B9SuDTbcnCImhOA3XNl/original.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![Joanne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@Joanne](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/Joanne)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 5:23am UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/cpp-d-denied-dtc-approved-feeling-frustrated/1375/9 "2018-06-28T05:23:06Z")
That’s a FANTASTIC resource from the Multiple Sclerosis Society! It does a great job describing the CPP Disability program and provides wonderful examples specific for people suffering from MS who are applying for CPP Disability. It’s one of the BEST TIPs I’ve seen on the site! Thanks so much Allyoops!!! ---
**Author:** ![2nd2none](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/47e85d/32.png) [@2nd2none](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/2nd2none)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 3:05am UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/cpp-d-denied-dtc-approved-feeling-frustrated/1375/10 "2018-07-03T03:05:02Z")
Apologies for not repling sooner. Extreme warm temperatures and MS don’t mix. Thank you for that fantastic resource from the MS Society. I had mailed out both applications on the same day, with copies of similar items. I’m just about to do my letter for reconsideration and ask for my reasoning as to why I was denied. Thank you all for your information as it will assist greatly. I will update as the process progresses. ---
**Author:** ![2nd2none](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/47e85d/32.png) [@2nd2none](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/2nd2none)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/cpp-d-denied-dtc-approved-feeling-frustrated/1375/11 "2018-11-27T21:42:00Z")
UPDATE CPP-D Approved! I sent in a request for reconsideration at the end of August, I received a letter of acceptance today (Nov. 27), dated Nov. 22. Probably arrived late because of the rotating strikes by Canada post. Either way, I’m quite happy. A huge weight off my shoulders. Never Give Up! ---
**Author:** ![jammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df705f/32.png) [@jammer](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/jammer)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/cpp-d-denied-dtc-approved-feeling-frustrated/1375/12 "2018-11-28T03:16:55Z")
Great news, congrats. ---
**Author:** ![Heidinsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dbc845/32.png) [@Heidinsky](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/u/Heidinsky)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://forum.resolutelegal.ca/t/cpp-d-denied-dtc-approved-feeling-frustrated/1375/13 "2018-11-29T02:56:27Z")
Congrats ! That is exactly what happened to us we recieved the news nov 10 and get our retro ( now remember which I did not understand you don’t get any retro for 4 months for us our approval was from April however April May June July we don’t receive retro for so we only got it for August sept October and November and gets put in the bank dec 3 ! We were surprised by the approval as I was reading even at reconsideration stages most were not successful It surely helps lesson the worry ! Best of luck and once again congrats